The original Arabic text could be found at The Forum of Arab Areligionists *
The Author of the original text is: Walid Mukaled
Translated By: Mandamus
* Areligionists is the translators attempt to translate the Arabic word ladeeni which describes those who don't believe in a religion, such broad classification is not found in the English literature as far as my knowledge, the classification expands to include Atheist, Agnostics, Deists, while it might seem that an Agnostic is a similar description, the fact is Agnostics (especially from the Arabs perspective) could have a neutral stance towards religion, while Areligionists are quite sure on their stance towards religion as being from a human source. Additionally such broader description allowed for inclusion of other walks of thought including atheism and deism, which in my opinion is needed at the start of an Arab movement against religion.
Is this God?
Why is there a preserved plate?
Why are there writers from angels?
Why there is a Squeak of pens Mohammed has heard when approached God in his Maraj trip?
Does god need a plate to write what he wants in?
Does god forget or does he need to review his thoughts?
I can understand humans need for books and plates to keep there records but what is the need of god for plates or even writers to keep his words or his orders.
A general look to Islamic God “Allah” reveals a picture of extraordinary king from that period of time.
In this picture god has a throne with eight carriers of it, we can find this image here were he says:
“And the angels will be on its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear the Throne of thy Lord above them.” [69:17] Al-Haqqah
this throne comes as a proof or as an evidence of his great power and his great kingdom. As there is no king without a throne same as any king of that time, thus Islam gave a great attention to this throne and its size, place or what it represents.
As other kings, this great God-King “Allah“ has soldiers “the angels “ who are loyal to him. Those angels have especial class same as nobles or close collaterals and they are: Gabriel, Michael, Asra .
Gabriel represents the personal representative of God as we can find in :
“Endued with Power, with rank before the Lord of the Throne” [81:20] Al-Taqwir
While Michael’s responsibility was water, plants and God’ grants. Many angels were writers of god’s deeds :
“Kind and honorable,- Writing down (your deeds)” [82:11] Al-Infitar
And according to Mohammed they were writing on papers and with an ink that can get dry:
“The pens have been lifted and the ink has dried.” Al Jamae al sahih 7957
This great God-King has a dignity and domination that makes all move rank upon rank in order just behind him if he moved or walked:
“And thy Lord cometh, and His angels, rank upon rank” [89:22] Al-Fajr.
No one dares to talk in his presence as he has a complete control on his soldiers by the great power and influence he has.
“The Day that the Spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right.” [78:38] An-Naba
He also has slaves (human race) breed in his kingdom and he blesses them with his grants.
“If ye would count up the favours of God, never would ye be able to number them: for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [16:18] Al-Nahl.
And who disobey him shall be tortured severely and he who obeys him shall be blessed and honored.
“Then shall anyone who has done an atom’s weight of good, see it!” [99:7] Al-Zalzala
“And anyone who has done an atom’s weight of evil, shall see it.” [99:8] Al-Zalzala
As any king of his time, Islamic God has an hour where you can ask from him what you want. Thus who asks him will be given without consideration (the Kadar evening, Friday’ hour),. And also has an hour where doesn’t response or accepts any prayer (before the sun set whereas the sun is between the devils horns ). This was the habits of AL Manathera' kings, the lucky days and the misfortune or unlucky days.
And this God-King is also the justice, the goodness, wisdom, knowledge, mercy and all those adjectives that almost every verse in Al Quran ends with.
To complete this picture of this God-King we must add the secessionist general. Thus Lucifer or Satan was this noble knight who arrogantly seceded when one of those slaves (Adam) has been promoted to higher class even than him and has been asked to prostrate to him.
“So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together: [38:73] Not so Iblis: he was haughty, and became one of those who reject Faith. [38:74] (God) said: "O Iblis! What prevents thee from prostrating thyself to one whom I have created with my hands? Art thou haughty? Or art thou one of the high (and mighty) ones?" [38:75] (Iblis) said: "I am better than he: thou createdst me from fire, and him thou createdst from clay." [38:76]” Sad.
Lucifer or Iblis (the Islamic name) seceded in a very silly naïve attitude as the God-King didn’t punish him or kill him (though he is supposed to be the only capable one) for disobeying his orders, just as it looks like a trick or it has been prepared to please the God-King.
“ (God) said: "Be thou among those who have respite." [7:15] Al-Araf
He didn’t kill or punish him but instead he said: here you are my despicable slave (Adam) who you despise, show me what you are doing to him; All Fall from Eden and let’s see a fight to death between two slaves.
The God-King is now pleased watching the fight and he doesn’t give an order to stop.
Doesn’t it make more sense than the story of which of them are the best in conduct?
“That which is on earth we have made but as a glittering show for the earth, in order that we may test them - as to which of them are best in conduct.” [18:7] Al-Kahf.
At the end, the God-King kills the secessionist by the name of getting rid of evil:
“ (God) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all.” [7:18] Al-Araf
Is this the image of God that you want me to believe in???
The Author of the original text is: Walid Mukaled
Quranic verse translation is adopted from Yousef Ali's Quran meanings and from the translators understanding of Arabic language as a mother tongue.
Translated By: Mandamus
* Areligionists is the translators attempt to translate the Arabic word ladeeni which describes those who don't believe in a religion, such broad classification is not found in the English literature as far as my knowledge, the classification expands to include Atheist, Agnostics, Deists, while it might seem that an Agnostic is a similar description, the fact is Agnostics (especially from the Arabs perspective) could have a neutral stance towards religion, while Areligionists are quite sure on their stance towards religion as being from a human source. Additionally such broader description allowed for inclusion of other walks of thought including atheism and deism, which in my opinion is needed at the start of an Arab movement against religion.
Is this God?
Why is there a preserved plate?
Why are there writers from angels?
Why there is a Squeak of pens Mohammed has heard when approached God in his Maraj trip?
Does god need a plate to write what he wants in?
Does god forget or does he need to review his thoughts?
I can understand humans need for books and plates to keep there records but what is the need of god for plates or even writers to keep his words or his orders.
A general look to Islamic God “Allah” reveals a picture of extraordinary king from that period of time.
In this picture god has a throne with eight carriers of it, we can find this image here were he says:
“And the angels will be on its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear the Throne of thy Lord above them.” [69:17] Al-Haqqah
this throne comes as a proof or as an evidence of his great power and his great kingdom. As there is no king without a throne same as any king of that time, thus Islam gave a great attention to this throne and its size, place or what it represents.
As other kings, this great God-King “Allah“ has soldiers “the angels “ who are loyal to him. Those angels have especial class same as nobles or close collaterals and they are: Gabriel, Michael, Asra .
Gabriel represents the personal representative of God as we can find in :
“Endued with Power, with rank before the Lord of the Throne” [81:20] Al-Taqwir
While Michael’s responsibility was water, plants and God’ grants. Many angels were writers of god’s deeds :
“Kind and honorable,- Writing down (your deeds)” [82:11] Al-Infitar
And according to Mohammed they were writing on papers and with an ink that can get dry:
“The pens have been lifted and the ink has dried.” Al Jamae al sahih 7957
This great God-King has a dignity and domination that makes all move rank upon rank in order just behind him if he moved or walked:
“And thy Lord cometh, and His angels, rank upon rank” [89:22] Al-Fajr.
No one dares to talk in his presence as he has a complete control on his soldiers by the great power and influence he has.
“The Day that the Spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right.” [78:38] An-Naba
He also has slaves (human race) breed in his kingdom and he blesses them with his grants.
“If ye would count up the favours of God, never would ye be able to number them: for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [16:18] Al-Nahl.
And who disobey him shall be tortured severely and he who obeys him shall be blessed and honored.
“Then shall anyone who has done an atom’s weight of good, see it!” [99:7] Al-Zalzala
“And anyone who has done an atom’s weight of evil, shall see it.” [99:8] Al-Zalzala
As any king of his time, Islamic God has an hour where you can ask from him what you want. Thus who asks him will be given without consideration (the Kadar evening, Friday’ hour),. And also has an hour where doesn’t response or accepts any prayer (before the sun set whereas the sun is between the devils horns ). This was the habits of AL Manathera' kings, the lucky days and the misfortune or unlucky days.
And this God-King is also the justice, the goodness, wisdom, knowledge, mercy and all those adjectives that almost every verse in Al Quran ends with.
To complete this picture of this God-King we must add the secessionist general. Thus Lucifer or Satan was this noble knight who arrogantly seceded when one of those slaves (Adam) has been promoted to higher class even than him and has been asked to prostrate to him.
“So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together: [38:73] Not so Iblis: he was haughty, and became one of those who reject Faith. [38:74] (God) said: "O Iblis! What prevents thee from prostrating thyself to one whom I have created with my hands? Art thou haughty? Or art thou one of the high (and mighty) ones?" [38:75] (Iblis) said: "I am better than he: thou createdst me from fire, and him thou createdst from clay." [38:76]” Sad.
Lucifer or Iblis (the Islamic name) seceded in a very silly naïve attitude as the God-King didn’t punish him or kill him (though he is supposed to be the only capable one) for disobeying his orders, just as it looks like a trick or it has been prepared to please the God-King.
“ (God) said: "Be thou among those who have respite." [7:15] Al-Araf
He didn’t kill or punish him but instead he said: here you are my despicable slave (Adam) who you despise, show me what you are doing to him; All Fall from Eden and let’s see a fight to death between two slaves.
The God-King is now pleased watching the fight and he doesn’t give an order to stop.
Doesn’t it make more sense than the story of which of them are the best in conduct?
“That which is on earth we have made but as a glittering show for the earth, in order that we may test them - as to which of them are best in conduct.” [18:7] Al-Kahf.
At the end, the God-King kills the secessionist by the name of getting rid of evil:
“ (God) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all.” [7:18] Al-Araf
Is this the image of God that you want me to believe in???
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