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Oct 18, 2007

An Example of Quranic discrepancies

The original Arabic text could be found at The Forum Of Arab Atheists

The Author of the original text is: Walid
Quranic verse translation is adopted from Yousef Ali's Quran meanings and from the translators understanding of Arabic language as a mother tongue.
Translated By: Areo

Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy-An examination of Quranic discrepancy.

The Quran challenges its opposers with a verse well known to all of us – Say had it been from any but Allah we would have found a lot of discrepancies

To start with the word much is in itself an obvious discrepancy.
For a book from Allah would be refuted by one discrepancy not much
As a supreme being would be expected to provide a flawless text and just one flaw would render the text defunct, as the alleged qualities attributed to Allah in the Quran contradicts even the smallest of flaws or even a glimpse of one.


In spite of this I will examine some of the discrepancies I found in the text which I hope are quite obvious, in this I shall try to refrain from referring to such discrepancies swarming the internet on various Christian sites, which all are aware of.

Discrepancy # 1
When I mock someone for failure to achieve a certain task, and at the same time fail to achieve that same sort of thing, and ask believers to accept both attitudes in my favor isn’t that considered a discrepancy?
Isn’t taking two contradictory stances worth scrutiny?
Let us consider two incidents

Incident #1

Abraham versus Nimrod

Abraham in spite of the naïve presentation, asks Nimrod to present a stunning miracle as proof of his alleged divinity or power.
We do support Abraham in his legitimate request, which should come as a judge between false and truthful allegations

Nimrod could have of course countered Abraham with the same request, or a different one but didn’t, so the story goes

258. Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust.-AlBaqara 258

Very well so we deduce that failure to fulfill the challenge (requested miracle) is proof of a false allegation.
And that the request of a miracle is a legitimate one.

Does anyone disagree on my understanding of the verse?

Let us move on to the next verse

Incident # 2

Mohammed is speaking in the name of God, as he Allah will either not appear to humans or lower himself to them,
Fair enough a God and his eminence is appreciated
He chooses a certain human to represent him
Well that’s up to him no objections here

So the prophet is addressing people as Allah's representative
So how did the people respond to him?
Same as Abraham did with Nimrod
They asked him to present them with a miracle
What was his response?


Al-Isra 90-93
90. They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth,
91. "Or (until) thou have a garden of date trees and vines, and cause rivers to gush forth in their midst, carrying abundant water;
92. "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face:
93. "Or thou have a house adorned with gold, or thou mount a ladder right into the skies. No, we shall not even believe in thy mounting until thou send down to us a book that we could read." Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- an apostle?"

Here the messenger denies the sender and merely acknowledges his humanity, as if the challenge was for him not for
the sender.

What is the difference between Mohammed (Allah's representative or spokesman) and Nimrod
Both failed the same test
But Quran asks followers to deem Nimrod and follow Mohammed
The question is dear constant believer isn’t this a discrepancy?


Discrepancy # 2

Al-Ahzab
40. Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

Here Allah changes a certain principal; he has decided to stop sending messengers

Here the Quran contradicts itself
Either Allah is unjust
And this means all the Quran is refuted
Or he is just
And he will not judge people after the death of Mohammed

And by this once more the Quran contradicts itself
As Allah created humans to worship him
And worship requires a message
And a message requires a messenger

Some might object that the message is present
While the message is present, it does contain its stamp of self refutation, as it states that Allah will not punish without sending a messenger

So what do we believe?
Is Allah going to punish us or not?

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